I don’t object to men – gay, bi, or straight – getting off on their sexual fantasies of “two women together”. What anyone else fantasises about to get off is their own business.

But, the money and power structure in the world is such that the public narrative of “lesbians” is, overwhelmingly, presented as “women who get men turned on in a particularly kinky way”. This is not the case for the women who fantasise about “gay men”: there is no public narrative of “gay men” meaning “men who get women turned on”. (There is an annoying, sexless public narrative of a gay man meaning “a man who is a woman’s best friend who never himself has sex and isn’t attracted to her”.)

If men who got turned on by “two women together” could get their titillating narrative only via amateur, not-for-profit publications written and published by each other, mostly based on the repeated motif of two women who are each other’s best friend and comrade – if the Bechdel test had had to be invented to define a film in which two men talk to each other about something other than a woman – if that were so, your complaint would have some point. Especially if a man could not identify as gay in a public online space without getting pestered by sexual invitations from straight women who regarded a man saying he’s gay as a sexual come-on.

As it stands, I presume your complaints arise because you barged into online space for slash fans, tried to divert the conversation to your own needs, and got slapped down quite hard for interrupting a discussion that had nothing to do with you.

But at the same time, doesn’t your experience at the slash panel you mentioned demonstrate that slash buys into this exploitation by using gay men for an irrelevant, titillating narrative the same way straight men use lesbians for their own irrelevant enjoyment? This has always frustrated me as a gay man, but when I try to explain why “yaoi isn’t gay”, I’m at a loss for words.

Why can’t people stop with the hate-mongering. It isn’t funny. There are all sorts of ways to amuse or even tittilate. That kind of crap shouldn’t see the light of day (or the dark of night).

Even a middle-aged, straight, white nerd of a geek (i.e., me) can see that, why couldn’t the people who made that?

The movie referenced by Lister was “Attack of the Surfboarding Killer Bikini Vampire Girls” and all we know about it was that it had a female protagonist. It was definitely a nod to a certain genre, but wasn’t what this movie appears to be: two straight men slaughtering a bunch of lesbians in the face of almost certain temptation.

I like camp horror movies, but from the trailer this one clearly misses the point badly. It’s not even Chopper Chicks in Zombie Town.

A film is a film and a film title is a film title. No matter how much you complain about it, people will still watch it because it has the blokes from Gavin and Stacey in it.

Would you be less annoyed if the main characters in it were also lesbians? I doubt it. If you want to watch a lesbian movie, go rent “but I’m a cheerleader” or “lost and delirious” this is a fun film, just let the boys have their movie and then it’ll disappear for a few years at least.

Wow. Rant over…